Most people I speak with, Catholics included, just laugh at the warnings of Our Lady.
"Nobody believes in those superstitious." or "I believe in science."
That's like saying a baptism isn't a baptism without all the traditional prayers and exorcisms that come with it.
Nonsense.
Jeff Finkbonner in comparison to WWII there has been relative peace. And Russia was converted from communism to peace. What wars has Russia started since the Soviet Union collapsed?
None.
The promise said that they would be converted to peace!
Vladimir Putin is more inline with catholic teaching (although schismatic) than any secular world head in power today. By far.
If you deny that than anyone who is honest can see who is "senile" or just a liar.
Besides that it's a fact that Russia was consecrated just not exactly as Our Lady requested so the benefits were partial.
In contrast, it was clear in the message given to Sister Lucy why such requirements (that the consecration of RUSSIA be PUBLICLY made by the POPE TOGETHER with ALL THE BISHOPS of the WORLD) were made.
In addition, up to 1987, Sister Lucia had stated that the consecration as asked by God and the Blessed Mother still had not been done.
Get real.
He did not consecrate her in an invalid way as you are implying.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Someone who esteemed and participated in religious practice with every false religion on earth including voodoo devil worship on live television.
This "priest" is an apostate.
"Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the anti christ"
The city of seven hill, the whore of Babylon...is who you follow.
Not the Catholic Church.
So you think Russia hasn't changed for the better since the Soviet Union.
That's just proves what a lost blind fool you truly are.
Russia has converted to peace.
That's a fact.
The consecration was done.
That's a fact.
It was not done as requested.
The the benefits were partial.
To anyone who is honest. They can see this.
These Gruner theories are asinine.
The heretic Gruner was conman and an apostate like the "priest" in this video.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Our Lady requested that Russia be consecrated in union with all the Bishops of the world, but on July 13 she only promised that “In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and it will be converted and a certain period of peace will be granted to the world.” Notice that Our Lady didn’t promise: “The Holy Father and all the Bishops will consecrate Russia to me…” Further, heaven revealed that the actual fulfillment of the consecration of Russia would not be fully in accord with heaven’s original wishes; for instance, it would be “late”
There is no evidence whatsoever that Our Lord or Our Lady ever promised that Russia would be converted to the Catholic Faith.
In Proverbs 16:7 we find a reference to “conversion” that does not mean conversion to the true faith, but the conversion of a persecuting enemy to peace (i.e. to a cessation of his persecuting ways).
Proverbs 16:7- “When the ways of man shall please the Lord, He will convert even his enemies to peace.”
In fact, notice the similarity between Our Lady’s words of July 13 and Proverbs 16:7: in the context of both, conversion is immediately linked with peace, after a man fulfills the request of the Lord.
According to Sr. Lucy, the message at Tuy that Our Lord will “save” Russia means that the Lord promises to “end the persecution in Russia,” thus corroborating the point that there is no evidence that heaven ever promised that Russia would be converted to the Catholic Faith.
Our Lady of Fatima, July 13, 1917: “If they listen to my requests, Russia will be converted and there will be peace. If not she will scatter her errors through the world, provoking wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated…”
Even Frere Michel, an author whose work is promoted by Nicholas Gruner’s apostolate, admits that the Soviet Union’s takeover of the Baltic nations and other small States during the period of World War II, which it simply annexed to itself making them exist no longer, constituted the annihilation of nations of which Our Lady spoke.
Frere Michel de la Sainte Trinite, The Whole Truth About Fatima, Vol. 3, p. 190: “In 1939 the USSR was still the only communist state in the world… Six years later… several nations were erased from the map, absorbed by the Soviet empire, a dozen countries entered Moscow’s orbit and retained only the appearance of liberty, while others were agitated by internal wars or gravely threatened by communist subversion. The prophecy of Fatima was being fulfilled to the letter.”
Besides the nations of Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, etc. which entered the orbit of the Soviet Empire, and were reduced to puppets of its machine, the Baltic nations, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, were actually erased from the map – completely annihilated by full absorption into the Soviet Empire.
“The small Baltic nations – Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia – were now ready for Stalin to pluck. He moved at once to impose ‘mutual assistance treaties’ on them, whose only significant clause provided for stationing large numbers of Soviet troops on their territory. These treaties were signed on September 28 (Estonia), October 5 (Latvia), and October 10 (Lithuania). They could now be taken over at any time.” (Warren H. Carroll, The Rise and Fall of the Communist Revolution, Christendom Press, p. 310)
It is simply a fact that countless Catholics were martyred at the hands of the Soviet Union and its Communist satellites. Since this is well known, I will not give many quotes to prove the point.
HE WILL DO THE CONSECRATION, BUT IT WILL BE “LATE” – FITS POPE PIUS XII
It is certain that Pope Pius XI failed to consecrate Russia to Our Lady’s Immaculate Heart. Pope Pius XII also failed to do so for many years, but (as we saw) he finally did consecrate Russia in 1952.
Our Lord to Sister Lucy, Summer, 1931: “Like the King of France they will repent and do it, but it will be late. Russia will have already spread its errors throughout the world provoking wars and persecutions against the Church: the Holy Father will have much to suffer.” (quoted in The Whole Truth About Fatima, Vol. 2, pp. 543-544)
Pope Pius XII, Sacro Vergente Anno (Apostolic Letter), July 7, 1952: “…just as a few years ago We consecrated the entire human race to the Immaculate Heart of the Virgin Mary, Mother of God, so today We consecrate and in a most special manner We entrust all the peoples of Russia to this Immaculate Heart…”
Please notice this extremely important point! In the Secret of July 13, Our Lady first expresses a conditional promise. “If they listen to my requests, Russia will be converted and there will be peace.” If her requests are fulfilled precisely, she says that there will be “peace.” But when speaking of what will actually happen “In the end,” she adds something, and declares that it will only be a “certain” period of peace!
Please notice this extremely important point! In the Secret of July 13, Our Lady first expresses a conditional promise. “If they listen to my requests, Russia will be converted and there will be peace.” If her requests are fulfilled precisely, she says that there will be “peace.” But when speaking of what will actually happen “In the end,” she adds something, and declares that it will only be a “certain” period of peace!
In conclusion, we can answer the question about the consecration of Russia by stating that it is a fact that Russia has been consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by Pope Pius XII. It is also a fact that Russia has been converted from its regime of persecution and the horrors which Our Lady specifically requested the consecration to prevent to a certain period of peace. The era of persecution of the Church in Russia and in all of its satellites – the era of the Gulag, the imposed famines, the martyrdom of priests, the annihilation of small nations annexed to the Soviet Union, the overt and vigorous persecution of the Church, etc. – formally came to an end with the dissolution of the Soviet Union – and the collapse of its satellites – on Christmas Day, 1991. This astonishing transformation occurred within one generation of Pope Pius XII’s consecration of Russia in 1952. Below are three different sources corroborating the fact that the collapse of the Soviet Union officially occurred on Christmas:
“After the dissolution of the Soviet Union on 25 December, 1991, the Russian Federation claimed to be the legal successor to the Soviet state on the international stage despite its loss of superpower status. Russian foreign policy repudiated Marxism-Leninism as a guide to action, soliciting Western support for capitalist reforms in post-Soviet Russia.”
first of all pope Pious XII did not do the "consecration " as much as he did more than any of the other popes because he did mention Russia, he did not use the word consecration and did not do it publicly with the bishops. Again if God required something specific there must be a reason. That's not to say that what pope Pious and other popes did did not bring some graces for the world because it did, that's why Russia it's at least free from the total enslavement of communism but she did spread her errors around the world just like Our Lady said. Sister Lucy said the consecration hadn't been done as God had requested it even until the late 1980's so how can you know more than her. What you say is ridiculous, or why would other popes after him keep "trying "to do that long awaited consecration if it had been done correctly.
That Lucy said that those consecrations brought some graces from God is not denied but that He said to sister Lucy but not the peace promised. Also Russia's conversion was meant to the Catholic faith, not just the fall of communism etc. and Russia has not being converted to the Catholic faith, which is the ONLY TRUE FAITH. So that will be brought only when the consecration is completed as God demanded, even Cardinal Burke has said recently that the consecration of Russia is still awaited by Our Lady. So I don't think you know more than Cardinal Burke.
You are either illiterate.
A liar.
A fool.
Or all of the above.
Read what I posted.
WWII and the Soviet unions reign of blood was unprecedented.
4 of the members of my family died in Soviet death camps. (The real holocaust)
How many of you're family are being shot in the back of the head or being dragged off to undisclosed locations never to be heard from again?
And as Our Lady says "A CERTAIN PERIOD OF PEACE"
Not "universal world peace for all"
The Berlin Wall fell in 1989
Wake up
There are many many of the good priests and religious and catholics who know the consecrations wasn't done because it wasn't Sister Lucy even said it many years after Pious XII, so who are you may I ask to know more than the actual visionary? Please stop spreading lies who delay the coming of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, you are doing the work of the devil.
Even the priest in this talk is saying the consecration wasn't done. Why listen to him if you want to attack what he is saying you are not even a priest who made you the interpreter of Our Lady?
I will not respond to your lies anymore since the devil is the father of lies and you are trying to confuse people. I am answering for the sake of other people.
Frere Michel de la Sainte Trinite, The Whole Truth About Fatima, Vol. 1, p. 498: “…in 1952. On July 7 of the same year, a month after the article by Dhanis, Pope Pius XII in his apostolic letter Sacro Vergente Anno, accomplished this consecration of Russia and it alone, by name – so much for Dhanis declaring it impossible!” (Immaculate Heart Publications)
This fact can also be found in the book Fatima in Twilight:
Mark Fellows, Fatima in Twilight, p. 119: “The letter went on to request that Pius consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart. He [Pius XII] did so in a letter to all Russians (Sacro vergente anno), writing in pertinent part, ‘today we consecrate and in a most special manner entrust all the peoples of Russia to this Immaculate Heart…’” (Marmion Publications, 2003)
Here are the words of Pope Pius XII:
Pope Pius XII, Sacro Vergente Anno (Apostolic Letter), July 7, 1952: “…just as a few years ago We CONSECRATED the entire human race to the Immaculate Heart of the Virgin Mary, Mother of God, so today We CONSECRATE and in a most special manner We entrust all the peoples of Russia to this Immaculate Heart…”
Yes. You're a liar or a fool or both.
After 1960 we are undoubtedly dealing with a massive conspiracy and an impostor Sr. Lucy. We will now cover the striking evidence that the enemies of the message of Fatima, starting during the reign of the Freemason, John XXIII, actually implanted an impostor Sr. Lucy who falsely acted as if she were the real Sr. Lucy. Nothing coming from Sr. Lucy after 1960 is reliable.
First of all, we know that there was a conspiracy involving Sr. Lucy starting in 1959. In 1957, Sr. Lucy gave her famous interview to Fr. Augustin Fuentes, postulator of the cause of Beatification for Jacinta and Francisco. In this interview, Sr. Lucy said that she had determined that we are in the last times, and that there are punishments in store for the world. Sr. Lucy also said not to wait for the hierarchy for the call to penance. Following the interview, in 1959 the Diocese of Coimbra issued a note. This note declared that Fr. Fuentes fabricated basically all the statements attributed to Lucy in the interview not dealing specifically with Jacinta and Francisco. Included in this note was a statement allegedly from Sr. Lucy, in which she supposedly declared that Fr. Fuentes’ claims were not truthful. Here is a portion of the note:
Note from the Diocese of Coimbra, July 2, 1959, on the Fuentes interview: “Father Augustin Fuentes, postulator of the cause of beatification for the seers of Fatima… visited Sister Lucy at the Carmel of Coimbra and spoke to her exclusively about things concerning the process in question. But after returning to Mexico…this priest allowed himself to make sensational declarations of an apocalyptic, eschatological and prophetic character, which he declares that he heard from Sister Lucy’s very lips. Given the gravity of such statements, the chancery of Coimbra believed it its duty to order a rigorous investigation on the authenticity of such news… but also with regard to things reported as having been said by Sister Lucy, the Diocese of Coimbra has decided to publish these words of Sister Lucy, given in answer to questions put by one who has the right to do so.
[Sr. Lucy]: ‘Father Fuentes spoke to me in his capacity as Postulator for the causes of beatification of the servants of God, Jacinta and Francisco Marto. We spoke solely on things connected with this subject; therefore, whatever else he refers to is neither exact nor true. I am sorry about it, for I do not understand what good can be done for souls when it is not based on God, Who is the Truth. I know nothing, and could therefore say nothing, about such punishments, which are falsely attributed to me.’
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